HARD QUESTIONS - IITB 08.12

 

Chapter 8. 12

Hard Questions

Did God create evil?

Is the Omni-present God also in Hell?

How can there be no bottom in Hell?  

Can Hell have fire & darkness at the same time?

 

 

 

Maybe there are HUNDREDS of ways to God;

maybe there are only TWO ways.

Maybe there’s just ONE way; maybe there’s NO way.

To consider any of these thoughts, your BS,

your Belief System requires an OPEN MIND.[1]

First Word

Concerning the World

a)     The world came about by accident or evolution apart from a Creator.

b)     It has always existed apart from a Creator.

c)     It was created by an unmoved mover.

     This study embraces the un-moved mover theory; there is a God who made the world and is still active in maintaining its existence and balance. - (Note; Evolution is an UNPROVEN THEORY)

Concerning God

a)     All the spokes in a wheel lead to the same hub. There are many paths to the same God. 

b)     Surely there is a path that is truer than the others.

c)     God sets the rules, He can reveal Himself in a number of ways; through an audible voice, feelings, visions, dreams, prophets or none of the above.

Concerning Man

a)     We are all born into a cast of values that are taught to us by our family. 

b)     If I was born into a Muslim family, I would be brought up to be a Muslim.

c)     If my family did not believe in God at all; neither would I.  In all probability, we will follow in the same footsteps as our parents.

 

God Made Known

     QUESTION: If there is a God; wouldn’t He make Himself known to us in the clearest way possible?

     Bible: From the beginning of time, what MAY[2] be known about God has been made plain to us by Him; it is our own spirit that suppresses the truth.[3]  Since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature has been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, and He gave proof by raising His Son Jesus Christ from the dead,[4] so that we are without excuse.[5]

The Book

     QUESTION; why is the Bible the only True Book of God?  Certainly there are other books.

     Bible:  Two of the writers of the Gospels (Matthew and John) were disciples of Jesus Christ.  They heard Him, saw Him and touched Him[6] and then proclaimed the good news so that others would have the opportunity to have fellowship with Him.  All the Disciples proclaimed his resurrection and never recanted even unto their death.

     Muslims:  Even the Qur’an acknowledges the life and works of Jesus Christ.

     Josephus the Jewish Historian, lived at a time when he could have known some of the Original Twelve Disciples.   He was not a Christian and in fact believed that the Roman Emperor Vespasian was the Messiah.   As Josephus just mentioned Jesus in passing, we should take note of all the things he spoke of; he said Jesus was the Christ; a worker of wonderful works and was crucified and rose from the dead on the third day just as it was prophesized.

     Fact:  It is a historical Fact that Jesus lived, died and was resurrected from the dead.  If Christ has not been raised from the dead then our faith is in vain.[7]  There is just no other hope.

     I am including a passage from “Josephus’s Antiquity of the Jews”, I hope you will get your own personal copy.  Even though he was NOT a believer; his writings read like the Bible.

 

Josephus 18.3.63-64 - Wise, teacher, wonderful works, Christ

63 Now there was about this time, JESUS, a wise man,

IF IT BE LAWFUL TO CALL HIM A MAN, for he was a

doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such means received

the truth with pleasure.  He drew over to him both many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles.  HE WAS THE CHRIST. 

64 And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again

on the third day; as the divine prophets had foretold these and

ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him.  And the tribe of CHRISTIANS, so named from him are not extinct at this day.

 

Only One Way

     QUESTION: Where did the concept come from that says that belief in Jesus Christ as the Messiah is the only way to God?

     Bible: It was Jesus Christ Himself that said it; “No one comes to the Father except through me”.[8] To go to heaven you must believe in Jesus Christ, there is no other name under heaven that you can be saved.

     The word Belief in Greek (Pisteuo) not only means to intellectually accept Jesus as the Messiah, but to walk in obedience to His commands.  Belief equals obedience; not intellectual gymnastics.

 

EVIL

     QUESTION: If God created everything, then He must have created EVIL.

     Bible:  God created Angels and man with Free Will and with that, He opened the door for Him to CHOOSE to do the greatest Good or the possibility to do the greatest Evil; Satan had this same choice.[9]

     You may then ponder that if God is omniscience; that He knows everything, then He must have known that Adam would mess up. 

     You are right; Satan had already exercised his Free Will and rebelled before Adam was ever created. God did know Adam would sin and had already put into effect the plan of salvation so man could find “THE WAY[10] back to God.[11]

 

Adam’s Sins

     QUESTION: Why would a loving God punish someone for mistakes or sins that were committed by someone else in his past; like the first man ADAM for instance?  Why should I pay for his sins?

     Bible: Scriptures bares out that in all probability, children will follow in the same footsteps as their Father; Sin requires punishment.  It is true that the one man ADAM sinned and now ALL have been separated from God because of his mistake,[12] and on our own we are NOT ABLE to even seek God.   BUT God reached out and sent His only begotten Son to provide THE WAY[13] to unite us once again to Himself and enabled us to SEEK Him through the power and working of the Holy Spirit.

     Good News; you need not have to pay for Adam’s sins; Christ has already paid the price for THE WAY of escape;[14] IF you want it.  The Christian movement was known as THE WAY because there is just NO other way back to God.[15]

     God has provided not just A way, but THE ONLY WAY back to Him and since we now know THE WAY; it’s not Adam’s bad choices that condemns us,[16] it’s our own choices;[17] it’s in the Book.

 

A Life Sentence

     QUESTION; Why would a God of love sentence someone to be TORMENTED in HELL FIRE FOREVER just because he mistakenly chose to worship the god he had always been taught to worship, which turned out to be the wrong god?

     Bible; Love does not exclude wrath; God has given us FREE WILL[18] and with that privilege comes responsibilities.  God has lovingly given us an entire lifetime to SEEK and FEEL OUR WAY and FIND Him[19] and to accept or reject His Son Jesus Christ as the Messiah.

     When I taught Electronics at Atlanta Technical School, I would mention something only once and on the test only the brightest students would get it; I wanted some to NOT get it.

     It was Jesus, the very embodiment of love who warned again and again and again about the wrath of God; the punishment and torment of Hell.  HE WANTS US TO GET IT.[20]  

 

Babies, Handicapped people

     QUESTION: Will a new born baby or a child or a mentally challenged person or someone who has never heard of Jesus Christ go to Hell?

     Bible: YES and NO; in my Belief System, I believe that a glimpse into scriptures indicates that God will judge people according to what they would have done had they heard and understood the message.[21]  There are those who do not know right from wrong and therefore do not sin; they WILL enter into the kingdom of God.[22]

A Question of HELL

     QUESTION; why would a loving God create a place of torment for man such as HELL?

     Bible:  Hell was NOT created for man, but was prepared for Satan and his followers who were the Angels that rebelled against God.[23]   It’s by our Free Will CHOICE that we rebel against God and that lumps us in with Satan and his gang of demons and fallen angels.  Hell’s dreadful torment is for those that knew THE WAY to God, and rejected it.

     At Death the wicked, not the righteous descent into a place known as Sheol or Hell.[24]   Understand this; Satan is not in charge of Hell, he’s just one of the boys in torment where everyone still does the same old thing that they always did on earth before their death.

     Hell is the lower parts of the earth holding the wicked dead till the end of the millennium; you are NOT instantly annihilated, but are tormented in the unquenchable fires that go on endlessly, and it gets worse.  At the return of Christ, Hell and its contents will be thrown into the burning Lake of Fire and Sulfur where the wicked will be tormented forever. [25]

     This is an un-seen world of disembodied spirits that are full of remorse, fear, and despair; with memories of what they should have done and didn’t; full of sorrow for their bad examples, and with a hopelessness of escape and in a state of regret over doing evil deeds that cannot be recalled.  They are in deep despair that they did not listen to God’s word, and are aware of their families on earth, and have this hopeless desire to warn them somehow.

     You are in the gloom of darkness, away from the face of God, with a bunch of demons, Satan and his fallen angels, and the entire unbelieving bunch of wicked folks, plus you have the ordinary run of the mill burning fire, brimstone and sulfur to walk around in.   There’s not very much love in Hell. 

     Muslims believe in error; Allah sends to hell whomever he wants.  He created a multitude of spirits and men specifically for the purpose of sending them to hell”.  (Sura 32:13)

     The Bible teaches; Life is Choice Driven, no one is created to go to hell, it’s your choice.  You cannot be neutral on this subject; being neutral is a choice to reject the Gospel of Jesus Christ.  

     To be perfectly clear, All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God[26] and are on the highway to hell, but God in His mercy, gave us the Holy Spirit to make it possible for us to seek God and it is through His only son Jesus Christ that we can find THE WAY back to Him, BUT YOU MUST CHOOSE IT.  In the movie trilogy THE MATRIX, Leo is shown the door and is told, “I can only show you the door Leo; you must CHOOSE to walk through it”.  (The movie the Matrix is the Gospel Message disguised as a science fiction futuristic movie.)

 

Time out

     If someone is breaking into our homes, stealing and killing people, we would surely all agree that we would want that person to be put in prison, not only for his past crimes, but to protect the community from future crimes.  That’s what Hell is; it’s a prison for those who break the law.  It’s an everlasting wasteland of discarded worthless people who seek to answer only to themselves.

     The act of rejecting your own country is called treason and in most countries this carries the death penalty, thus the rejection of the love of God carries this same extreme penalty.  God cannot be God unless His attributes including His justice be maintained.  It was this justice that nailed His only begotten Son to the cross.

We can conclude that a just and loving God

will separate the Evil from the Good

and will hold people accountable.  SELAH

 

Names for Hell

     QUESTION: I’m confused with all the names concerning the afterlife of the wicked.  How many places are there?

     Bible:  Sheol is mention some 60 times in the OT and in the NT it is translated as Hades (10x), Gehenna (12x), Tartarus (1x) which all are rendered as Hell.  With that said, you can with certain believe there is such a place as Hell. 

     Gehenna (Greek) - Hell (Hebrew) - Hades (Greek) - Sheol (Hebrew for Hades); all symbolize the same thing.  Gehenna was a valley just outside of Jerusalem where garbage and dead bodies were thrown with gnawing worms eating the rotting putrid flesh.  It burned and smoked day and night; it is symbolic of what Hades is like.

     FYI:  There is only one place of everlasting punishment.  Before the Day of Judgment, Hell is referred to as Hades which is the abode of the SOULS of the wicked.  After the Day of Judgment it is called Gehenna which is the abode of the BODY and SOUL of the wicked.

 

God in Hell

     QUESTION: If God is Omni-present, truly everywhere, then is He also present in Hell? 

     Bible:  YES, but it is not the LOVE of God that is present there, it’s the flip side; it’s His wrath.

     Heaven is Heaven because God’s LOVE is there; the righteous are blessed forever.[27]

     Hell is Hell because God’s WRATH is there; [28] those in Hell are doomed forever, eternally separated from God’s LOVE.[29]

     Separated from the light, anything that is pure, and holy; away from the blessed redeemed saints.

     Together with all that is pure darkness; with all the evil and hatred there is in man, angels and demons, ALL balled up into one place.

     SIDE BAR: If I didn’t know anything else but about Hell, I would at once try to find God while I still had a CHOICE.

     There is no such thing as reincarnation or a place called purgatory.  (These are lies borne out of the pit of hell to steal your life.)  We are appointed ONCE to die and then the judgment.[30]

 

Did you see it?  The moment you die, judgment takes place,

you are just waiting for your sentence; there is no more chances.

 

Fire, Darkness, Bottomless

     QUESTION; How can you have fire in Hell and it yet be dark?  That makes no sense, the Bible contradicts itself, how can Hell be bottomless, that too makes no sense?

     Bible: Hell is lit up with unquenchable fire; it devours forever and ever. Moses saw a bush that was on fire, but it was never consumed, it just kept burning.[31]

     The LOVE of God is LIGHT where the redeemed stand blessed in His brilliance forever.[32]

     The WRATH of God is the GLOOM of outer darkness far from the LIGHT of God.   The darkness of Hell is the total absence of God’s light.[33]

     Hell is bottomless; in my BS, my Belief System Hell is in the shape of a ball located in the center of the earth and no matter which way you go and how far you go to escape, it just keeps going and going, round and round.  

There’s NO beginning, NO end, NO escape and NO HOPE… for eternity.

Good Works

     QUESTION: As the Mormon’s and Jehovah Witnesses go from door to door witnessing, why do people throw rocks at their works of “missionary endeavors”?

     Bible: The Doctrine of salvation is not achieved through WORKS.  Works exists because you have been saved; believing that your works as a missionary saves you is a false teaching.  The work of Jesus Christ on the cross was final; Salvation is Jesus Christ plus nothing else.  You do not have to be a missionary in order to be saved.  NOTE: (They use starting a Bible Study in your home as a recruitment tool and when they see no hope of recruiting you to their church, they will stop the Bible Study.)

     NOTE: Disproving another religion does not prove Christianity, but it does plant a fence post to see what’s lining up with the rest of the Bible Scriptures.  The Book says that many Christians, are trusting in their works and not walking in obedience.[34]  We don’t do good works in order to be saved, we do good works because we are saved; works do not save.  

 

Sadly to say, God will say He never knew them.  It’s in the book.

 

     The Jews are basically a nation of Humanism; a nation of Works as they have rejected the New Covenant and continue to embrace the Old Covenant which God rendered inoperative when Jesus the Christ fulfilled the Law.  However in my BS, I believe this rejection will change; probably right after the rapture of the believers: the Jew’s will turn to Jesus in droves; they will see the light. [35]

     Think about it… you go into work and find a number of people missing and there is talk about something called the RAPTURE of the church folks; what’s the next thing you would do?

 

Knowledge

     QUESTION:  My dad is the Preacher in the church and my Mother teaches Sunday school therefore I know a lot about God, so am I not surely saved?  Maybe, maybe NOT.

     Bible:  Good for your mom and dad; but although as a PK (preachers kid), you know about God unless you glorify and give thanks to Him, your heart is dark, [36] therefore God will give you over to the sinful desires of your own heart.[37] You have knowledge, but not TRUTH; it’s not about knowledge; it’s about obedience.

     A young man was applying for a job with me and gave glowing testimonies of what his momma was doing in the church and community.  I listened for some time, then I asked him for his own personal testimony; he did not have one.

     God does not have any step children; only children.   You can’t get to heaven on your mama and daddy’s coat tail.

Scripture – You will know them by their fruit;[38] the saved are obedient and bear fruit.

 

Hope

     We are all BORN sinners by nature, BUT we remain sinners by CHOICE.  We know naturally what is right or wrong because the laws of morality have already been clearly written on our hearts,[39] but because our works are already dark & evil, we can resist the light and choose darkness instead. [40]

     We CAN fix how we were born by choosing to become BORN AGAIN.[41]  If we seek God, we will find Him;[42] He is not far from us.[43] Our choices on this side of death have eternal consequences.



[1] Acts 17:11-12 - The people of Berea were more OPEN-MINDED and searched the Scriptures day after day to see if Paul and Silas were teaching the truth

[2] Romans 1:18-19 – What MAY be known about God is made plain and clear

[3] 1 John 3:24 - Whoever keeps God commandments abides in Him

[4] Acts 17:31 – God gave proof when He Raised Jesus from the dead

[5] Romans 1:20 – Since the creation God’s invisible qualities, eternal power, divine nature was revealed, now we are without excuse

[6] 1 John 1:1-3 – We have heard, seen and touched Jesus.

[7] 1 Corinthians 15:14 – If Jesus was not raised from the dead then our faith is in vain

[8] John 14:6 - No one comes to the Father God except through me -- John 3:36 - Whoever believes in God’s Son, Jesus the Christ, has eternal life -- John 3:3 – Jesus said; unless one is born again, he cannot enter the Kingdom -- John 14:8-10 – Jesus said; whoever has seen me has seen the Father God

[9] Isaiah 14:13-14 – Satan’s FREE WILL; the five I wills of self

 

[10] Acts 24:14 - I follow THE WAY, which they call a cult

[11] 1 John 3 -8 – The Plan of Salvation was placed in effect before Adam and Eve, so they would have THE WAY back to Him

[12] Romans 5:18-19 - One man’s disobedience (Adam) made us all sinners and subject to the Wrath of God

[13] Acts 19:23 – Christianity; the sect followers of Jesus Christ were called THE WAY

[14] 1 Corinthians 10:13 – God has provided THE WAY of escape

[15] John 6:65- No one can come to me unless granted by the Father

[16] Deuteronomy 24:16 - You will be punished for only your choices, not Adams.

[17] Romans 6:5 – Every Believer will be united with Christ at the Resurrection

[18] 2 Corinthians 8:3 – Man has the gift of FREE WILL

[19] Acts 17:27 – His purpose was for us to SEEK and FIND Him.  -- Hebrews 9:27 – God has given us a lifetime to seek and choose Him before we die and the judgment

[20] John 3:16-17 - Whoever believes on Jesus Christ will have eternal life.

[21] Romans 2:15-16 – God judges the secrets of men’s hearts -- Luke 12:47-48 – He that did not know receives a light sentence

[22] Deuteronomy 1:39 – Not knowing good from bad are SAVED and WILL ENTER the Kingdom of God

 

 

[23] Matthew 25:41 – Hell was not created for man, but for Satan and those who choose to follow him

[24] 2 Thessalonians 1:9 – The Unbeliever will be removed from the presence of God forever.

[25] Revelations 20:10 – Unrepentant before you die will receive Tormented day and night

[26] Romans 3:23 - For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

 

[27] Romans 8:38-39 – The SAVED can’t be separated from His Love.

[28] Psalm 139:7-8 – If you make your bed in Hell; God is there -- Isaiah 13:9 – For the Wicked; God’s WRATH and anger comes on Judgment day.

[29] Deuteronomy 32:22 – God’s anger and wrath burns in Hell fire.

[30] Hebrews 9:27 – We die ONCE then JUDGED awaiting sentence on the Day of the Lord.

[31] Exodus 3:2 - Though the bush was on fire, it did not burn up

[32] 1 Peter 2:9 – God has called you out of darkness into his wonderful light -- 1 John 1:7 - If we live in God’s light; we have fellowship with each other -- 1 John 2:9-10 - The one who loves his brother abides in God’s Light

[33] Matthew 22:13 – The Make-believer will be thrown into Outer Darkness -- Jude 1:13 – The Make-believer is Doomed forever to the blackest darkness  -- Jude 1:6 – The fallen angels are in chains of darkness waiting for the Day of Judgment.

[34] Matthew 7:21-23 – It’s not your WORKS that saves you, its your OBEDIENCE

[35] Zechariah 8:23 - Ten people will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, ‘Let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you.’

[36] Romans 1:21-23 – Although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.

[37] Romans 1:21-32 - God gave them over in the sinful desires

[38] Matthew 7:16 – You will know them by their fruit; obedience, their actions.

[39] Romans 2:14-15 – The Law is written on our hearts and our conscience also bears witness

[40] John 3:19 – It’s a Choice - Men loved the darkness rather than light

[41] 2 Corinthians 5:17 - Anyone that is in Christ is a new creation

[42] Jeremiah 29:13 - You will seek me and find me

[43] Acts 17:27 - God is actually not far from each one of us

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